{"id":355506,"date":"2023-12-24T20:23:07","date_gmt":"2023-12-24T21:23:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=355506"},"modified":"2023-12-24T22:03:20","modified_gmt":"2023-12-24T22:03:20","slug":"the-uncomfortable-truth-on-lyons-all-time-ranking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=355506","title":{"rendered":"The uncomfortable truth on Lyon&#039;s all-time ranking"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/nathan-lyon\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"Nathan Lyon&#x27;s\">Nathan Lyon&#x27;s<\/a> status as one of Australia&#x27;s greatest spin bowlers of all-time is unquestioned.<\/p>\n<p>Exactly where he stands is up for debate, however.<\/p>\n<p>For Wide World of Sports commentator and former Test captain <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/mark-taylor\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"Mark Taylor,\">Mark Taylor,<\/a> the thought of ranking Lyon is too difficult.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/combat-sports\/boxing-2023-jai-opetaia-v-ellis-zorro-day-of-reckoning-knockout-results-video\/6f683958-0432-4fdc-823f-fa60b252f101\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Aussie&#x27;s &#x27;ruthless&#x27; KO sends Brit &#x27;into the shadow realm&#x27;<\/strong><\/a><strong>\ufeff<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/cricket\/bbl-2023-abandoned-renegades-v-scorchers-match-will-not-be-rescheduled-unsafe-wicket\/83912392-cb8e-4810-88ba-7529ce768d4d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Call made on result of farcical BBL abandonment<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/cricket\/india-v-australia-womens-test-2023-alyssa-healy-hermanpreet-kaur-obstructing-the-field-appeal-video\/c412d838-8aa5-461f-b8b9-e6eceacae989\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>&#x27;Furious&#x27; skippers clash in bizarre obstruction appeal<\/strong><\/a><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On sheer numbers of wickets alone, few would dispute that <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/shane-warne\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"Shane Warne\">Shane Warne<\/a> is Australia&#x27;s bona fide GOAT.<\/p>\n<p>However, the second rung on that ladder is up for debate.<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"ee43694f-ba33-4554-b2a0-800056472aa6\" src=\"https:\/\/prod.static9.net.au\/fs\/ee43694f-ba33-4554-b2a0-800056472aa6\" alt=\"Nathan Lyon of Australia and all of the team celebrate his 500th Test wicket during day four of the first match against Pakistan.\" data-width=\"1920\" data-height=\"1281\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Taylor spoke with Wide World of Sports, who said it&#x27;s difficult and unfair to compare Lyon to the likes of Bill O&#x27;Reilly or Clarrie Grimmett by way of example.<\/p>\n<p>Lyon currently sits eighth on the all-time most wickets taken ladder behind Muthiah Muralitharan (800), Shane Warne (708), James Anderson (690), Anil Kumble (619), Stuart Broad (604), Glenn McGrath (563), and Courtney Walsh (519).\u00a0\ufeff<\/p>\n<p>Grimmett, by contrast, sits 74th on that list with 216 wickets but only played 37 Tests while O&#x27;Reilly played just 27 matches and took 144 wickets.<\/p>\n<p>They averaged 24.21 and 22.59 respectively while Lyon currently averages 30.85.<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"b21170e2-3b70-4ea5-95f2-af9d1eadf412\" src=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/b21170e2-3b70-4ea5-95f2-af9d1eadf412\" alt=\"Australian spin bowler Clarrie Grimmett bowling against Essex at Leyton.\" data-width=\"1920\" data-height=\"1280\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, the difference between generations is too big a factor for Taylor to definitively say where Lyon sits. \ufeff<\/p>\n<p>&quot;I don&#x27;t like saying things about history because it&#x27;s so different now. The guys of today and even my era, we played so many more games,&quot; said Taylor.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;If you say the number two in history, it means you&#x27;re forgetting about people like O&#x27;Reilly and Grimmett and some of those names from yesteryear who didn&#x27;t have the opportunity to play 123 test matches.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Obviously you&#x27;re eluding to the fact that Warnie would be number one, but once again, Warnie was number one because yes, he was a great spinner, but also he was able to play a lot more test matches.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&quot;I don&#x27;t like ranking guys over the history of the game because it&#x27;s too far.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><img data-video-id=\"6343440263112\" src=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/pickerimage-43.jpg\" alt=\"Aussies celebrating Lyon\" data-vms-id=\"ref:clqan939c00010jo0moz2lymn\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Lyon could conceivably move up that order if he plays as long as some are forecasting he might.<\/p>\n<p>The 36-year-old has earmarked a return to England for another Ashes series.<\/p>\n<p>Taylor is confident the New South Welshman could play into his 40s, echoing remarks made by incumbent captain Pat Cummins.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;That wouldn&#x27;t surprise me to be totally honest because he&#x27;s still very keen and I spoke to him only recently and he talked about maybe going back to England,&quot; said Taylor.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;That&#x27;s 2027, the best part of three and a half years away. It wouldn&#x27;t surprise me if he if he gets up towards 40 if he&#x27;s still enjoying it and taking wicket.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&quot;I don&#x27;t see him giving it up in a hurry.&quot;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Nathan Lyon&#x27;s status as one of Australia&#x27;s greatest spin bowlers of all-time is unquestioned. Exactly where he stands is up for debate, however. 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