{"id":339899,"date":"2023-10-19T20:36:29","date_gmt":"2023-10-19T20:36:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=339899"},"modified":"2023-10-20T00:03:27","modified_gmt":"2023-10-20T00:03:27","slug":"read-the-room-moment-pies-star-had-to-move-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=339899","title":{"rendered":"&#039;Read the room&#039;: Moment Pies star had to move on"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/jack-ginnivan\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"Jack Ginnivan\">Jack Ginnivan<\/a>&#x27;s manager John Meesen has opened up on the fast-moving trade deal that landed his star player at Hawthorn after <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/collingwood-magpies\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"Collingwood\">Collingwood<\/a> agreed to a <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/trade-news-2023-collingwood-hawthorn-jack-ginnivan-move-confirmed-matthew-lloyd-questions-professionalism\/5aacdedd-552a-4bb8-866c-800fa693c2c9\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"deadline day trade\">deadline day trade<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\ufeffThe forward was part of Collingwood&#x27;s premiership-winning side but met with Hawthorn on Tuesday, having only just returned from holiday.<\/p>\n<p>Conjecture has continued since Wednesday &#8211; the final day of trades &#8211; as to who initiated the move with Meesen providing context around the decision. \ufeff<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/nrl\/news-2023-penrith-panthers-jarome-luai-contract-new-management-company\/4b9ac8b1-c9e7-41e0-9692-7ad2d99a64ad\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Luai joins Latrell&#x27;s stable ahead of feeding frenzy<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/motorsport\/supercars-news-2023-newcastle-500-cancelled-2024-season-opener-at-bathurst-mount-panorama\/58a49cf3-8448-49ea-99e3-6c2118502410\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Supercars ditches Newcastle for Bathurst mega festival<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/news-2023-joel-smith-positive-cocaine-test-melbourne-demons-sports-integrity-australia\/73a3edd8-f53a-4180-ac37-45135b3ae421\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Demons player suspended after positive cocaine test<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&quot;I picked up the phone and called Wrighty (Collingwood footy boss Graham Wright) after my phone started blowing up,&quot; he told SEN.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;It was put to me that Jack was being floated around.<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"062cd513-4f38-4f71-a3f2-88400f43eb23\" src=\"https:\/\/prod.static9.net.au\/fs\/062cd513-4f38-4f71-a3f2-88400f43eb23\" alt=\"Collingwood&#x27;s Jack Ginnivan.\" data-width=\"1396\" data-height=\"785\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&quot;I don&#x27;t want to go tit for tat.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;From that conversation I got off the phone to him knowing that Jack&#x27;s future wasn&#x27;t at Collingwood.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;&#8230; Who initiated the discussion was probably me on the back of some trusted people in the industry saying his name is kind of getting thrown out there.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;I picked up the phone, took Wrighty at his word that he hadn&#x27;t made any conversations about Jack leaving but from that you start to unwind a little bit on, &#x27;OK well where does he sit? What does it look like? Can you give us any assurance?&#x27; There wasn&#x27;t a whole heap of fighting to want to keep Jack at the footy club so we had to move quickly.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;&#8230; That&#x27;s the nature of the industry \u2013 we move on.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Wright has previously stated the decision was Ginnivan&#x27;s to look elsewhere, despite the forward having an inconsistent season.<\/p>\n<p>The 20-year-old\ufeff started the 2023 season with a <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/news-2023-jack-ginnivan-collingwood-ban-from-afl-for-illicit-substance-use\/ef967ef6-3405-41e9-83ad-c869db7f7737\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"two-game ban for a pre season drug scandal\">two-game ban for a pre season drug scandal<\/a> but managed to fight his way back into the team.<\/p>\n<p>It was then revealed he attended the races, a day before the grand final. \ufeff<\/p>\n<p><img data-video-id=\"6339377988112\" src=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/pickerimage-96.jpg\" alt=\"Gunston dealt ahead of deadline\" data-vms-id=\"ref:clnvgpwe700b60ks0xz1stoni\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Meesen said he had to &quot;read the room&quot; after a number of changes were made to Collingwood&#x27;s roster.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;When (Collingwood) decided to bring in some guys over the last couple of years \u2026 I think that had a bit of a direct effect of where Jack stood in the standings at the Collingwood footy club,&quot; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;If you&#x27;ve got one year to go, kind of in and out of the side, you&#x27;ve got to read the room and I felt like we had to read the room there and potentially look at some other options.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>The youngster&#x27;s manager also indicated there&#x27;s still plenty of improvement left in Ginnivan. \ufeff<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Is he the most elite professional trainer? Probably not \u2013 but he&#x27;s young. Not many are at 20 years old,&quot; he said.<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"20e0e0d6-86d6-4c46-9690-84ea13387468\" src=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/20e0e0d6-86d6-4c46-9690-84ea13387468\" alt=\"Jack Ginnivan pictured in action for Collingwood in 2023\" data-width=\"1396\" data-height=\"785\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&quot;The whirlwind he had from the last two or three years, he&#x27;s gone from relatively unknown to this enigma and this personality in the AFL industry, it&#x27;s kind of hard to escape that and just settle into your career and be yourself because everything he was doing was magnified.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Was it standards, was it him, was it just being at Collingwood? The magnifying glass that Collingwood brings is intense.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;I think Jack understands the reality right now, less than 20 days ago he became a premiership player and now he finds himself at another footy club.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Hopefully this is what Jack needs to settle into his career and probably take the spotlight off him.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Meesen also revealed other clubs expressed interest but Hawthorn were ultimately the best fit for his client. \ufeff<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Jack Ginnivan&#x27;s manager John Meesen has opened up on the fast-moving trade deal that landed his star player at Hawthorn after Collingwood agreed to a <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=339899\" title=\"&#039;Read the room&#039;: Moment Pies star had to move on\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":339901,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/339899"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=339899"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/339899\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":339904,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/339899\/revisions\/339904"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/339901"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=339899"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=339899"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=339899"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}