{"id":132790,"date":"2021-09-22T16:24:49","date_gmt":"2021-09-22T16:24:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=132790"},"modified":"2021-09-22T16:59:46","modified_gmt":"2021-09-22T16:59:46","slug":"bizarre-conundrum-raised-amid-hot-brownlow-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=132790","title":{"rendered":"Bizarre conundrum raised amid hot Brownlow debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As the yearly debate around midfielders dominating the <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/brownlow-medal-2021-live-updates-winner-medal-count-odds-favourites-results-highlights-ollie-wines-marcus-bontempelli-clayton-oliver\/8bb423d1-9c60-411a-bcf1-bee711302926\" title=\"Brownlow Medal\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brownlow Medal<\/a> count continues to rage following Sunday&#x27;s night of nights, <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/essendon-bombers\" title=\"Essendon\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Essendon<\/a> legend <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/matthew-lloyd\" title=\"Matthew Lloyd\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Matthew Lloyd<\/a> has shifted the focus to what he sees as a fault in another awards system.<\/p>\n<p>The legendary Bombers forward has pointed out that while <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/richmond-tigers\" title=\"Richmond\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Richmond<\/a> defender <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/dylan-grimes\" title=\"Dylan Grimes\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dylan Grimes<\/a> won the Tigers&#x27; best and fairest with 51 votes this season, the <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/all-australian-team-jake-stringer-and-jacob-weitering-miss-out-kane-cornes-and-david-king-react\/fcef992a-3a4f-4983-b0ea-07c8df3110ee\" title=\"All-Australian\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">All-Australian<\/a> earned just five votes in this year&#x27;s <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\" title=\"AFL\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">AFL<\/a> Coaches Association champion player of the year award count.<\/p>\n<p>How the AFL Coaches Association champion player of the year award count works is that both coaching panels allocate votes on a 5-4-3-2-1 basis after every match. Votes can be handed out to the opposition.<\/p>\n<p>Lloyd isn&#x27;t fazed that Grimes only polled one vote in the Brownlow Medal count due to the nature of the umpires-voted award, but he&#x27;s frustrated that the three-time premiership Tiger clearly wasn&#x27;t valued by the coaches this season.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/basketball\/nba-ben-simmons-76ers-tells-philadelphia-he-will-never-play-again-portland-houston-adrian-wojnarowski\/f4bc5709-f5a8-4571-aec3-adebbdcd5308\"><strong>Ben Simmons tells 76ers &#x27;he will never play another game for the franchise&#x27;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"a217e1a9-0f5e-4dc2-aacc-aa5bfc8e72cf\" src=\"https:\/\/prod.static9.net.au\/fs\/a217e1a9-0f5e-4dc2-aacc-aa5bfc8e72cf\" alt=\"\" data-width=\"1396\" data-height=\"785\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&quot;This is where I think the coaches award disappoints me, because (the coaches) should be the ones that value a certain player within the game,&quot; Lloyd said on Nine&#x27;s <em>Footy Classified<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;And I look at this player: Dylan Grimes. I don&#x27;t care about the Brownlow because I understand Dylan Grimes isn&#x27;t the type to poll in the Brownlow.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;But (how did he get) only five votes for the year? That would have him 150th-200th.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;So how does he win his club&#x27;s best and fairest but yet Damien Hardwick only gave him five votes during the year? That&#x27;s what I don&#x27;t understand.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;The coaches&#x27; votes \u2013 we should be seeing more role players within their votes.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"f3491d61-5072-49cb-9352-a01bc450c92f\" src=\"https:\/\/prod.static9.net.au\/fs\/f3491d61-5072-49cb-9352-a01bc450c92f\" alt=\"\" data-width=\"4145\" data-height=\"2899\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/news\/canelo-alvarez-caleb-plant-face-off-ends-in-chaos-punches-thrown-cut-under-eye\/7873d82e-0ab0-439b-9986-c76aad18c919\"><strong>Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant brawl at pre-fight face-off<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/melbourne-demons\" title=\"Melbourne\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Melbourne<\/a> midfielder <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/clayton-oliver\" title=\"Clayton Oliver\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Clayton Oliver<\/a> took out this year&#x27;s AFL Coaches Association champion of the player award, polling 114 votes as he edged the <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/western-bulldogs\" title=\"Western Bulldogs\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Western Bulldogs<\/a>&#x27; <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/marcus-bontempelli\" title=\"Marcus Bontempelli\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marcus Bontempelli<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/port-adelaide-power\" title=\"Port Adelaide\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Port Adelaide<\/a>&#x27;s <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/brownlow-medal-2021-ollie-wines-wins-charlie-acceptance-speech-celebrated\/c0cfb05d-414f-484f-a635-03885fb0bed8\" title=\"Ollie Wines\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ollie Wines<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A non-midfielder hasn&#x27;t won the champion player of the year award since <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/barry-hall\" title=\"Barry Hall\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Barry Hall<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/sydney-swans\" title=\"Sydney\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sydney<\/a> in 2005.<\/p>\n<p><img data-id=\"f3a93298-593a-4092-ac3d-4f503eda665f\" src=\"https:\/\/prod.static9.net.au\/fs\/f3a93298-593a-4092-ac3d-4f503eda665f\" alt=\"\" data-width=\"2476\" data-height=\"2120\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>READ MORE: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/nrl\/the-mole-melbourne-storm-free-membership-loyal-fans-covid19\/2411c196-7443-4dd2-86c1-b41c11fe90b2\" title=\"\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Melbourne Storm reveal incredible gesture for loyal fans<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Footy Classified<\/em> panelist <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/eddie-mcguire\" title=\"Eddie McGuire\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Eddie McGuire<\/a> responded to Lloyd with a thought-provoking question.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Are the coaches not putting them in the coaches award because they don&#x27;t want the opposition knowing who the valuable player is?&quot; McGuire said with a laugh.<\/p>\n<p>Former <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/st-kilda-saints\" title=\"St Kilda\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">St Kilda<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/fremantle-dockers\" title=\"Fremantle\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Fremantle<\/a> coach <a href=\"https:\/\/wwos.nine.com.au\/afl\/ross-lyon\" title=\"Ross Lyon\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ross Lyon<\/a> added: &quot;I think there&#x27;s a point to that.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>For a daily dose of the best of the breaking news and exclusive content from Wide World of Sports, subscribe to our newsletter by<\/em><\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/login.nine.com.au\/login?client_id=wwos&amp;redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fwwos.nine.com.au&amp;newsletter=true\" title=\"clicking here!\"><strong><em>clicking here!<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>As the yearly debate around midfielders dominating the Brownlow Medal count continues to rage following Sunday&#x27;s night of nights, Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd has shifted <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/?p=132790\" title=\"Bizarre conundrum raised amid hot Brownlow debate\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/132790"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=132790"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/132790\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":132792,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/132790\/revisions\/132792"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=132790"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=132790"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sportinfo.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=132790"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}